External Validation
“They [Russians] are victims of their own propaganda. I found a formula how the Russian [propaganda] really works. First he writes some crazy theories. Then they put this on TV. Then they watch their own TV and start to believe it. It’s like a cycle. It’s like it’s real. And when we’re talking to these people [Russian government negotiators sent to Istanbul in March 2022 to negotiate Ukraine’s surrender] they really believe that we [Ukraine] is full of Nazis killing people on the streets. 150 million people living in this country [Russia] and they are watching this TV and believing this thing… my biggest argument was ‘like how, do the Nazis elect a Jewish president?’ This put them in a bad position. But they answer, ‘this is a special UK operation.‘”
Source: Book Proposal (May 2025) — Ukraine’s chief negotiator
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